Daily Cipher
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15th December 2025 at 9:41 am #114443_madness_Participant
@Puzzling_Pelican,
I cannot contain my dizzying mirth.
p.s. I cheated.15th December 2025 at 9:41 am #114444_madness_Participant*spiralling out of control
15th December 2025 at 12:06 pm #114448Robb27Participant@Puzzling_Pelican
Thank you for compiling and posting these extra puzzles. Whilst I can’t devote much time on them – work unfortunately takes priority (!) – I am enjoying them immensely.15th December 2025 at 6:40 pm #114461Puzzling_PelicanParticipant@the_cryptographer_formerly_known_as_madness
These are all words that I and anyone else who solves the final cipher can understand, but I must ask, how could you have cheated with this cipher? Nowhere on the server does it make any reference to the keyword (which I believe you know) and use of clues is far from cheating, it is almost essential.Also, unless you are also responsible for “mysterious_stranger”, the marking system has not recognized your submission yet, and if you are the owner of both accounts, I believe it is fair for you to submit 10B on your main account with the same number of hints used (becoming the first account to submit all 20 ciphers).
@Robb27 I’m glad you are enjoying them 🙂
15th December 2025 at 7:14 pm #114464_madness_Participant@Puzzling_Pelican,
Yes, thank you for the challenges. Especially for including the one with the circly thing. That thing that spins around. Maybe some competitors will go and find that paper about how to break it with a computer.
In the 10B ciphertext, “y” appears three times. I believe they should be “a”. Please confirm.
Do you mind if I include the solutions in the NCC archive after the new year?
If I write a description of the cipher in 10B, do you want to be credited with your real name? If so, Harry knows how to reach me.
On your site you have a list of old ciphertexts. If you want to go back further, all the way to the beginning of NCC, and add more to your list, then those ciphertexts can be found on https://www.github.com/themaddoctor/BritishNationalCipherChallenge
15th December 2025 at 9:35 pm #114467Puzzling_PelicanParticipant@the_cryptographer_formerly_known_as_madness
I share your feelings about the “circular cipher”; your paper on breaking it is extremely helpful. It is definitely worth the read if you enjoy 10B style ciphers.
The “y” vs “a” was an intentional change to the key to try better hide how it was created.
I plan to upload all solutions to your GitHub archive shortly after new year’s.
As for my real name, I am happy for it to be used, you can probably find it on last year’s leaderboard 🙂16th December 2025 at 12:10 am #114472_madness_Participant@PP,
I see now that you placed a,y,z where I would not have put them, and they never move, so we just have to live with it.
Thanks for liking the paper.
16th December 2025 at 12:10 am #114473_madness_Participant@Puzzling_Penguin
Sorry I just saw your earlier post after I saw your later post.
I’ll make you this deal: I’ll tell you how I cheated if and only if someone new solves all 20 challenges, before some deadline that we both think is reasonable, like the end of NCC’s current season, or something like that.
16th December 2025 at 9:42 am #114478Gen_ruiktParticipantIm up for it if somebody gives me all the challanges in bulk its my first year competing
16th December 2025 at 9:43 am #114479Puzzling_PelicanParticipant@the_cryptographer_formerly_known_as_madness
On further thought, “y” and “a” (lowercase) are now in slightly more sensible places (switched with each other).
The ciphertext on the website has been updated along with the clues. The copy on the forums (will be released around 21st I believe?) will just have 3 “y”s instead of 3 “a”s, doesn’t change much except for a slight difference in the final key.
End of NCC sounds like a good deadline.16th December 2025 at 5:33 pm #114488Robb27Participant@Puzzling_Pelican
I think I am going to have to give in and get a hint on your 5B. I’ve converted the numbers to text and have a normal ioc but with a non-normal letter frequency so assuming this is a transposition with a key substitution. But can I work out that transposition !!! Horizonal / vertical / block ??? With varying periods – even though the number of factors are quite small. My computer’s running hot with key substitutions on various text permutations. It feels like I have personally contributed a lot to global warming over this one 😉21st December 2025 at 9:00 am #114057Puzzling_PelicanParticipantMission 10B!
This is by far the hardest cipher this challenge and is far beyond anything you should expect to see in National Cipher Challenge.
As usual, clues are available on the main website. I strongly recommend using them, I don’t know how possible this is without at least a few clues (as evidenced by madness having yet to submit the answer).
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VI0SH 2VKOC HQT0P VX1ZZ bVBXP 7WAHT YLCAG WZSRU 0TV0C BFOAA KoGIA ISYTW 6BECG WZXRV PT7IO YUAnK OCKOC XO9CN =XWQX SOSCP TW5ZP UCPUI 1SSQN T0WTI LOIYV Q1oWY PWNCJ XVIq9 NACIT TCSTQ BREVP EASCP GWZoW YNST8 2PWEN CREQJ BpJ0T 6CY0O QTXTX RDARX WOXW6 GWZ9E QSIOD TSFVQ HISLI oNV7G XBXkO TAmCO TCZVQ ZSXSO DYCHT YNXUO UAAoZ HISQV FSPTS CIXZC IWA7X ZIRGN ACXHO QJBT1 0VRXC RNSQN C0NTR E4NTN IKSGT 0LKAY ~7TCW 5TK0T RTX7X ZBMXW 5TREC ZGWQX WQFNP NA0PV CXFmX WFOAA KoGIA ISYTW 6JTFX wAwXZ TPLCI TGNYT 0F0ML <I0TC IQFVJ U1EHF SOPIY EEMAX W6GWZ 2HVXR TECXV IFUOS L1C9X QVFQE XCOVD SNOXN EMAE< I0TCI KoZUA N5IZF X0GWZ SNOIC TZD21 2VOVF TD6qV IFQVn TVO6N lANCB EODT5 WTwAY ZGWQV FIADS BXPNA APVIS YEBNL EZ7WA AROPN A21UN V70Pm IYEPL UUONI SYNSQ ZYrDN VYJCV CSVIq TICPN AYAUT Vp6OV CoNGW ZYJMC JX7XZ FOVEC WT0pW 5TREC CITI1 SnUCI FXNUn W6XOX SpYWO PIV4X CITNO CCNmV nTCPU TCODY HPXWI SC21U mXWVA CVIqQ TXTPL IA[RU SGWZo WYNST VXHSE VIk2m I0PUN ANCVO 6CJXT YHTNA CTOJI mXWoC NUVIF mZJA0 T7COY 1VSQN NEBOI YRTXT D6HTY LCAGW ZYJMC JX7XZ FOVEC WAKoY WoAOY CEYX6 WWBSX HOFwA m0PNO 6TCOU CI6WT URBHV MTXRS PTCN> ABySI ODTSG OCWOB 1ZCCL BCoNQ JBMZX NPLCF HCUPP RQYQV YAUUA OUPpI FXDTU ONSMO 212SV YQIWA 7ZATB XQFVA 6FRXW lZPQA SAVC1 AY2nd January 2026 at 5:01 pm #115055Puzzling_PelicanParticipant@the_cryptographer_formerly_known_as_”the_cryptographer_formerly_known_as_madness”
I am happy for you to start adding solutions to the archive now if you would like.Seeing the number of people who have taken the time to break some of my ciphers has brought me a huge amount of joy and has justified all the time spent designing them (how Harry, Jodie and the Elves manage to produce a challenge every year is insane). Thank you for being such an amazing community.
I will keep the website up for a few more months, but even after that, Madness has kindly archived the ciphertexts (and soon the solutions) on the NCC GitHub archive.
3rd January 2026 at 11:28 am #115063_madness_Participant@Puzzling_Pelican,
I’ll post them soon. In the meantime, can you help me understand how you decide to encipher CON as SNO and not CNO, OPC, or NTC?
3rd January 2026 at 5:09 pm #115067Puzzling_PelicanParticipant@madness
Odd and even rows of triangles (formed between letters) on the grid are treated differently. The row with the “CON” triangle uses the \ edge of the triangle to reflect in, while the row below (with CAT -> ACI) reflects in the / edge.
The best way to visualize how it works is to draw connections between pairs of 1×1 triangles that map to each other on the grid and it should produce a\ \ \ \ \ \ / / / / / / \ \ \ \ \ \ / / / / / /pattern.
1×1 triangles were a very difficult edge case when designing this cipher and this was somehow the best rule I was able to come up with. -
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