The official Challenge 10 tips and hints thread
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20th December 2022 at 9:31 am #87666TattyDoughnutParticipant
Is it pig (like the animal) backwards?20th December 2022 at 9:42 am #87678aq_ueousParticipant
could 10b be a route cipher?20th December 2022 at 9:44 am #87680BobDParticipant
Perhaps the matrix on the crumpled paper is relevant?
[Might be, might not be (at least not in the way I think you mean), but it is a brilliant guess and I wish I had thought of it! Harry]20th December 2022 at 9:57 am #87684Mattyrat2027Participant
@Cyvann I have no idea about the implications towards the cipher for 10B, but 2*5^3*13 is the product of prime factors for 3250.
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It’s getting rather hard to work out which part of Challenge 10 everyone is referring to here…20th December 2022 at 9:57 am #87685BobDParticipant
[Yes? Harry]21st December 2022 at 9:00 am #87578HarryKeymaster
If you followed the last hint then you will have found the sequence
TT LW MM DJ EA
which matches our template for the crib Tallmadge perfectly!
TT LW MM DJ EA
TA LL MA DG E-
This tells us that the pair TT encodes for ta, LW for ll, MM for ma, DJ for dg, so you can make those substitutions throughout the text and start to break it.21st December 2022 at 9:00 am #87677ShinglingtonParticipant
There’s this type of transposition cipher that I’ve found from doing research online, which is specifically related to one of the factors of 3250. It’s going to be such a pain to write a program for this niche cipher from a tiny hunch like this. I hope I’m not wasting my time by doing this D:21st December 2022 at 9:32 am #87686Livia_022Participant
THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE HINTS 😭👍🏻21st December 2022 at 9:35 am #87688firebreathingdragonhedgehogParticipant
hi harry, was the hint earlier (about cribbing) for part 10a or 10b?
[It was for 10A and I have updated it to say that. Sorry about the ambiguity. Cribbing is a good idea for both though! Harry]21st December 2022 at 9:36 am #87689newtonsappleParticipant
If you feel that it doesn’t reveal too much, may I know the last two characters of the plaintext for 10B?
[Nice try, but no! Do you think you might have cracked it? Harry]21st December 2022 at 9:37 am #87690YeetcadamyParticipant
I think the text might have been padded at the end to get it to 3250 characters because the amount of x’s in the text is a bit high, and four of them appear at position 13 when you modulo by 26
[I am publishing this because it is a nice observation, but that is not to say whether or not it is helpful! Like the thinking. Harry]21st December 2022 at 9:37 am #87691CrackerjackParticipant
Is anything in the case files supposed to help us with 10B?
[Not directly, Harry]21st December 2022 at 9:40 am #87693msjjmathsicloud-com-1Participant
‘stew overt’ & have ‘fin’ – typos or a clue to 10B?
[Whoops, typos! Corrected now. Harry]21st December 2022 at 9:41 am #87694f6exbParticipant
I tried by writing the text on a row of 26 cubes 5*5*5 and reading the vertical slices. No success.
With two rows of 13 cubes, no result either.
[Nice idea. Harry]21st December 2022 at 9:43 am #87695madnessParticipant
Back in October, when the slip of paper was released, I checked, and yes, it is an invertible matrix.
That makes it useful as a 3×3 Hill key. You may do as you wish with this information. But if it leads
nowhere, don’t get mad at me.
[How could we ever get mad at you? Harry
PS: Oh, I see. Yes, that could make us a bit mad. OK.]
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